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jack1974
You can grab the game from here: https://winter-wolves.itch.io/tales-from-the-under-realm-lilith



It's a plain VN but with several branching points. I plan to upload a full guide on Steam once the game goes live there!



What's New in 1.0.0



- added all the missing artwork so now the game is complete! Calling this version 1.0.0 (official release)

- fixed a line in Evelyn which was referring to a wrong outfit

- added the "alone" thumbnail in gallery

- added KS credits in credits





What's New in 0.7.4



- fixed some confusing hint messages appearing during the story which had outdated information about endings/routes

- added option to skip the round of question with Ophelia on the boat

- added more details to one of Odette's flashback to justify the blood in her clothes

- fixed several typos



What's New in 0.7.3

- fixed several wrong gallery replay scenes

- always with you achievement now unlocks correctly

- now Odette puts her clothes back after the threesome (naughty girl!)

- during the moonlight sex scene, a couple of Ophelia's lines were mistakenly given to Odette, fixed it



What's New in 0.7.2



- made the beta public!

- added an explanation if you don't accept Ophelia's offer to justify Lilith being together with her

- after a flashback scene Lilith was wearing her casual outfit and not the pirate one, fixed

- updated to latest Ren'Py version
Franka
I played through the different triad endings. I like it, it's a pretty good story.



Always with you achievement didn't unlock though.



Also, Odette never put her clothes back on after the threesome.



There are more bugs/errors I caught, but more on that tomorrow.
jack1974
Thanks, still recovering from eye surgery so will be much slower to reply/update than usual but keep the bug reports coming, I'll fix them later :)
Franka
Some observations:





If that's middle aged, I'd hate to see what old looks like.

https://i.imgur.com/beSG8Us.jpeg" style="max-width:100%">



I don't see a beard. I see tattoos though...

https://i.imgur.com/JJagVGM.jpeg" style="max-width:100%">



Always? We met, like, 6 hours ago or something...

https://i.imgur.com/bboakss.png" style="max-width:100%">



I don't see scars or tattoos.

https://i.imgur.com/OigvL9H.png" style="max-width:100%">



Shouldn't there be an option to move on without clicking all the dialogue here?

https://i.imgur.com/xxLOvj5.jpeg" style="max-width:100%">



Since we later learn Odette snaps her neck, why is she covered in blood?

https://i.imgur.com/7zJPNts.png" style="max-width:100%">



This is the first time they're separated in my playthrough though.

https://i.imgur.com/Ub2wOLW.png" style="max-width:100%">



I'm a little confused by Lilith's physiology here. Didn't she say her blood was cold? How is her blood cold and her skin warm? Or should I just accept "it's fantasy"?

https://i.imgur.com/ZM53DHN.jpeg" style="max-width:100%">



Text overflow.

https://i.imgur.com/Ls70CY1.jpeg" style="max-width:100%">

https://i.imgur.com/pYb3WIo.png" style="max-width:100%">



Ok, back to reading a few more routes.
Franka
I unlocked all the achievements, with 89% script seen. That's probably enough for now. I'll upload the typos/etc. I found later; there weren't that many of them.
jack1974
Thanks for the errors. About the cold blood... true. Need to think about it. Maybe "it's fantasy!" could be a good escape from this situation :lol:

The other issues came up because I wrote the story before receiving the artwork, so there are a few minor inconsistencies like the one you pointed out. I'll make sure to fix them!
Franka
Probably just delete the cold blood part, because Lilith's body temperature is brought up many times throughout the game. If she was cold blooded, she'd just have the same temperature as her surroundings (plus some heat generated by muscle movement).
jack1974
OK sounds good, btw about


Odette's blood in the flashback scene, it's from killing Gaston before she kills Lara afterwards. But I forgot to describe the fact that when she kills him things gets a bit more messy. Anyway will edit the story to justify better that

Franka
Typos, etc.


[spoiler]
All I ask for

https://i.imgur.com/6E9EIZ3.jpeg" style="max-width:100%">



an unmatched

https://i.imgur.com/VVaJWvK.jpeg" style="max-width:100%">



witness to

https://i.imgur.com/p3O7LSg.jpeg" style="max-width:100%">



techniques

https://i.imgur.com/eutL96B.png" style="max-width:100%">



collar on

https://i.imgur.com/qfAyXr1.png" style="max-width:100%">

[/spoilers]
Franka



What does "a God with preferences" mean? Honestly, I don't understand that statement.

https://i.imgur.com/V10xEgP.jpeg" style="max-width:100%">



did it with

https://i.imgur.com/c8WTrNc.jpeg" style="max-width:100%">



thought it was

https://i.imgur.com/GVGI32u.jpeg" style="max-width:100%">



"Lilith" isn't capitalized.

https://i.imgur.com/HV6aftw.jpeg" style="max-width:100%">



spellcasters

https://i.imgur.com/6VMkImn.png" style="max-width:100%">

Franka



even though you were here

https://i.imgur.com/qmJLzs4.jpeg" style="max-width:100%">



ogling

https://i.imgur.com/J3WGCr6.jpeg" style="max-width:100%">



Shacklesplit

https://i.imgur.com/1HPjcvm.jpeg" style="max-width:100%">



were more interested

https://i.imgur.com/aeMAfHD.jpeg" style="max-width:100%">



Looking back at it

https://i.imgur.com/AwhzzBh.jpeg" style="max-width:100%">

Franka



Shacklesplit

https://i.imgur.com/rouq8R9.jpeg" style="max-width:100%">



He'd never gotten

https://i.imgur.com/3mCcND1.jpeg" style="max-width:100%">



Why am I

https://i.imgur.com/xhutXLv.jpeg" style="max-width:100%">



ogling

https://i.imgur.com/dsYkTbU.jpeg" style="max-width:100%">



Too much "guard", I'd maybe say "Two soldiers guard"

https://i.imgur.com/rpghRvW.jpeg" style="max-width:100%">

Franka



enough to give

https://i.imgur.com/a9vEdwR.jpeg" style="max-width:100%">



if someone wanted to jump...

https://i.imgur.com/fEiIDh1.jpeg" style="max-width:100%">



an orc

https://i.imgur.com/5R6wB4Q.jpeg" style="max-width:100%">

Franka
That's all the typos I noticed.



So, overall I enjoyed the game. I thought the story was fine, but not as good as After Midnight. At first, I was a bit like, "wait, jail again? Didn't we do that in Hazel?" but then it went to a lot of other places. The length of the story was really good, even if some of the variations (especially in the endings) seemed so minor as to not really matter enough to have branching (way too many variations of attacking one guy or another). But I'm not _really_ complaining about more content. :)



Evelyn was the most interesting character to me, and her ending with Odette and her death ending were my favorites. Lilith was the least interesting character to me, and the flirting often felt really forced.



The poems were mostly horrible, but I just attribute that to Odette being a terrible poet. I mean, rhyming "bound" with "abound" is pretty bad...



I was fine with the amount of sex, even if it was a bit tilted towards anal. Hey, I'll take that over foot stuff, too bad the footie scene was with Evelyn.



Shame to say, I was not very fond of the semi animated cartoon section. The art really took a hit in that, way too simplistic looking compared to the regular art.



All in all, a good release, I think, hope it does well.
Franka

OK sounds good, btw about


Odette's blood in the flashback scene, it's from killing Gaston before she kills Lara afterwards. But I forgot to describe the fact that when she kills him things gets a bit more messy. Anyway will edit the story to justify better that







But she isn't bloody in the CG when she's killing Lara, is she? Maybe I'm having a brain fart, but all I know is it confused me at the time I was reading it.

jack1974
Preferences mean the Nameless God isn't impartial but likes/dislikes certain people :)
Franka
Ah, favorites. I see.
jack1974

So, overall I enjoyed the game. I thought the story was fine, but not as good as After Midnight. At first, I was a bit like, "wait, jail again? Didn't we do that in Hazel?" but then it went to a lot of other places. The length of the story was really good, even if some of the variations (especially in the endings) seemed so minor as to not really matter enough to have branching (way too many variations of attacking one guy or another). But I'm not _really_ complaining about more content. :)

Yes I knew myself that this kind of story (journey) couldn't have been as good as After Midnight, I admit I made some choices based more on fanservice or meeting players' tastes (see the feet thing lol) than purely what I wanted to write, but I wasn't really "forced" to do anything. I just wanted to write a different story I guess :)



Evelyn was the most interesting character to me, and her ending with Odette and her death ending were my favorites. Lilith was the least interesting character to me, and the flirting often felt really forced.

Considering Evelyn was probably one of the most popular secondary character I ever wrote (in After Midnight) I really put a lot of effort on her, I admit. My favorite ending which I consider canon is God's Bet, but without triad route I'd pick that one too (Evelyn ending).



Shame to say, I was not very fond of the semi animated cartoon section. The art really took a hit in that, way too simplistic looking compared to the regular art.



All in all, a good release, I think, hope it does well.

The cartoon was an experiment, since I wasn't sure either what could have been the result. I can't blame artist since she's just a single person (at least I think) but in any case it's an experiment I won't repeat, since with that amount of money I could have done like... 20-30 more "comic style" pictures (even if that artist takes forever to make them, so... not sure).



I hope it does well too since I spent a lot of time/money on this project. Ironically, I spent more money on House of Chavez but that's due to all the adventure part, detailed backgrounds, etc!