I would make it at least 200% more so that they have to do twice as much damage to really take it that way, maybe even 250%. In real life there are very few 10-8 rounds without a knockdown.



Thinking of knockdown, I had a round where my guy went down but otherwise dominated but didn't knock down the opponent - and won the round 10-9. He still has to lose the round, even if we are nice and make him lose 10-9, although most will do 10-8 anyway.

Now that I've thought about it, I would make it 200%-250% more and at least 150 damage dealt in the round. That will make sure that they don't land two punches each and it's a 35-16 damage round, hence 10-8. Since they really are few and far between that'll make it difficult for it to happen at all.

Hi, I've just uploaded a new version with those changes. Now you should see much less 10-8 happening. Also increased the chances that the boxer stays down for a ten count KO.



http://www.didone.com/games/UBMTrial.exe

When I'm too busy at work it drives me crazy cuz I have to wait till I get home mutter mutter. I even have my files on the flash drive but nooooooo can't take the time.

Ok I got to sim a few fights. It definitely has less 10-8 rounds which is good, although there were still a couple which I would question. On the other hand, my guys often hand out such beatings that perhaps it really is warranted. You get a gold star!

Well next patch will be a remedy against your invincible fighters...! mouhahah



Seriously maybe if you played the game with new rules (if you get beating bad you lose stats) your boxers could be less powerful? or maybe I need to put some limits to the boxers progression... when I see your saved game with all boxers with all skills >99 I think something is not right

No they aren't all 99 anymore, that's an old one before you put different sanctions on. Today my fighters average about 85 at their peak, usually with only one category at 99. Since no one else seems to be able to do it, you oughta just leave it alone and salute my genius.



Checked it later... my absolute best fighter averages 91.8, my worst is 67.3 average and he is a champion, although tenuous. See, you've held me in more than you used to.

Wowo, when I clicked out to go to another window my computer locked up solid. Can't be sure it was UBM but it is rather strange.

I didn't change anything about window handling or graphic in general since 1-2 years, so I think shouldn't be UBM fault

Soooooo what happens when the "injury" limit is reached? I just handed out a beating to the tune of 1498 damage over 12 rounds (unbelievable that the ref didn't stop it). The other guy's injury bar was blinking since the 10th round and nearly went all the way up... what'll happen to his career?

Haha don't know, is strange indeed. Maybe it was an Ultimate Fighter match?

That's not what I wanna hear from the programmer! I'm assuming that my throwing in the towel to prevent injury does have something behind it... if my guy took a huge beating his stats would go down?

Heh yes, if you get beated your boxer stats go down, by a random amount but proportional to the beating you got. Sorry but from your previous post I didn't understand clearly if was your boxer, or the opponent one that was beaten and didn't throw the towel?

Would one of my boxers ever take a beating? I've never seen an opponent give up, there have been several times that if it was my boxer I would have thrown in the towel by round 8.

Hmm maybe need to make the opponent managers a bit more sensible vs their boxers!



p.s. sorry for the silly question, was obvious that none of your boxers couldn't get a beating!!

Okay... maybe you fixed this already but I don't believe so. In my career that I've been doing for a good while the talent pool has just dried up. I have about two and a half pages of boxers between 16 and 18 that are free agents, and not one of them has a good upside. In my career that I've only started (the one I used the for manual, I gotta update!) I have 15 pages of free agents between 16 and 18 with lots of talent in there (course an unknown reputation won't help me sign 'em). Makes it tough for a wiley veteran like me to find the next hot prospect unless I wanna steal from another manager - not that I'm above that.



I'm not sure how you handle retirements and new generations, or how often opposing mangers get to sign people...but that'll probably need some looking at.

Hmm did you start a new game after ending the previous one, without quitting to desktop (quitting the game completely) ? if this problems happens only in this case , I think I know what's wrong.

I mean, if you quit and start a new game and you can find young promising talent, then the problem is starting a new one without quitting the game completely.

My problem is that the talent is gone in a game where I've been a manager for like 15 years... boxers aren't regenerating very much so there's only a few free agents anymore and they're junky. I was using my second game as a reference... it's early in the game and there's a ton of talent around.

Ah ok, so happens in the same game after a lot of time (15 years) you're playing... well the regeneration isn't so fast indeed, but since you can manage up to 6 boxers at once, thought would be enough.

I presume you're firing your old boxers if aren't good enough, and hire new (better) ones?

Yeah... I usually keep my guys until they retire or lose so much talent that they can't maintain championships and then I look for new talent. I'm not quite to that point (32 years old is my oldest boxer, I'm 34 in the game) but I figured I'd do some scouting, and found that there's just no talent left in the young guys.



I checked the two careers to see what was happening. Both careers have 125 pages of boxers and 40 pages of free boxers, so technically regeneration is working fine and my opposing mangers aren't managing any more boxers than they were at the beginning of my career.



There is actually lots of young talent - each career has 16 pages of boxers 16-18 years old, so it's actually not regeneration that's the problem. The problem is that 13 pages of them are signed by other managers, leaving me with very little free agents to work with in my old career, vs. only one page signed by others in my new career, giving me 15 pages to choose from.



So my opposing mangers are doing exactly what I'd do - drop older boxers with less upside and sign the young talent that has lots of potential. Problem is that they've now signed everybody worth signing and I'm left with basically nothing that's really worth my time and money to train and try to get to championship status. Hum... so in some ways it's realistic because my opponents are smart too, but...but... I don't want to HAVE to steal from another manager to get my next champion. Plus these guys have the tendency to be high in the rankings already, rather than in the bottom 10 and needing to fight their way to the top.



Ultimately I guess we would need for every new boxer 16-18 to be automatically in the bottom 10-15 of the rankings so they'd have to fight their way up, and we'd need to force the other managers to sign guys who are older to keep the balance reasonable for everyone.



Hope that all made sense.