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Re: change of artist...

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:28 am
by jack1974
Also Aleema sent me an interesting feedback: basically even with Arthur is enough to enlarge eyes and remove a bit the facial wrinkles/laugh lines:
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and seems already different. The thing is that with manga it's enough a few lines more, to go from a character that looks "20-something" to "50-something" :lol:
Indeed even in PSCD the main issue, beside the uncanny valley thing, was that some character's facial expressions were exaggerated.

Re: change of artist...

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:51 am
by Troyen
The eye change helps. I'm not sure removing the lines is needed, depends on what his actual age is supposed to be.

The twins turned out pretty well, not sure how I feel about Arthur/Ann yet.

Re: change of artist...

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 9:02 am
by jack1974
From writer's docs:

Ann - 21
Arthur - 19 (so I think DEFINITELY the laugh lines needs to be removed!!)
Christina - 21
Neville - 26
Svetlana - 22
Roger Steel - 30
Mei Ling - won't say/doesn't know - but between 18 and 24 probably; looks young but tough beyond her years
Hamilton - 28 - but looks older, more weathered than RS!
Anja - 18 (twin of Abhay - facially identical)
Abhay - 18 (twin of Anja - facially identical)

So I actually don't know where I read that the characters "must look older". Maybe was just in my mind :lol: Only Roger Steel is 30!

Re: change of artist...

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:25 am
by ChaosMorning
Oh my god that looks so much better. The features are way more proportionate. So much better.

Re: change of artist...

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:58 pm
by OhHaiMe
Much better on the face.

Re: change of artist...

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 5:21 pm
by Katicflis
Not a fan of Arthur's look -- I actually havent liked Arthur's sample images since the very very first one(Pre-Dennis). But the twins are a significant improvement over Dennis' versions and Anne looks nice.

Re: change of artist...

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:23 am
by DarkWolf
I agree with everyone that eyes are way too small but other then that a nice art.

Re: change of artist...

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 5:55 am
by pahldus
To me, the biggest issue with Arthur is the jawline. Nobody has a jawline like that, it makes the face look triangular.

Re: change of artist...

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 8:32 am
by jack1974
Uh? Jawlines like that are quite common! :shock: If you browse internet you can find plenty of guys (even famous actors) with a similar face shape :)

Re: change of artist...

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 11:50 am
by Muramasa_Junko
I think he's referring to the fact that a lot of jawlines are aligned to the mouth's heigh and Arthur's seems a bit too high. Almost as if it's none existent.
To be more precise:
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Note that the jawline is in perfect alignment with the mouth, that should be the case with all face positions aswell.