Art Thread [Planet Stronghold 2]

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Re: Art Thread [Planet Stronghold 2]

Post by jack1974 » Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:10 pm

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fixed alignment of the defensive skills and also added a reload sound to each weapon. I like this system since even if are randomly generated each weapon has a specific sound and reload sound, it's nicer than just using global randomized sounds as it was in the beginning :)

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Re: Art Thread [Planet Stronghold 2]

Post by Jaeger » Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:14 am

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the targeting / dmg preview GUI now looks more sci-fi. I have added some animations but I've been careful to not delay the resposivity (I made some tests and even if I could add some nice fading effects players will want to see the damage info immediately).
The font is an improvement. However, to make it look more like an targeingt reticle, the green background could be removed.

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Re: Art Thread [Planet Stronghold 2]

Post by jack1974 » Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:37 am

If I remove the green background the text is unreadable. Believe me I made TONS of tests :mrgreen: I had a much sci-fi looking version but you couldn't read the texts so I had to change it, since that's the most important thing.

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Re: Art Thread [Planet Stronghold 2]

Post by jack1974 » Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:01 am


made a video showing a bit how the combat works and the difference that makes equipping the "right" weapon. The level will be the most important thing, but also the damage type will have impact of course.
I used a text to speech software to do the voice so you won't have to listen to my ugly voice and terrible English :mrgreen:

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Re: Art Thread [Planet Stronghold 2]

Post by Jaeger » Tue Jun 12, 2018 2:35 pm

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If I remove the green background the text is unreadable. Believe me I made TONS of tests :mrgreen: I had a much sci-fi looking version but you couldn't read the texts so I had to change it, since that's the most important thing.
The damage preview should be readable without the green background, and wouldn't really be much different from the battle UI in Cursed Lands, which seems to use a similar text. For the rest of the text, which uses a smaller font size, I could see your point. Using abbreviations and all capital letters (ex: CRIT, DMG, etc) could be used to make room for larger text size though. In the latest video, the giant boragrub uses "melee attack" with a even smaller font size and no text box to aid in readability.
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Re: Art Thread [Planet Stronghold 2]

Post by jack1974 » Tue Jun 12, 2018 2:44 pm

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here are tests I did using the same GUI but with a more transparent background. I personally think it's bad (my eyes hurt trying to read it, even the bigger texts :oops:). Remember that players don't see so zoomed in.
As for "melee attack" those are the skill names displayed so a different thing from targeting, I think that might work (maybe I will display a gradient to black overlay).

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Re: Art Thread [Planet Stronghold 2]

Post by Jaeger » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:12 pm

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here are tests I did using the same GUI but with a more transparent background. I personally think it's bad (my eyes hurt trying to read it, even the bigger texts :oops:). Remember that players don't see so zoomed in.
I'll will admit that the damage type ("Explosives") is rather hard to read due to the darker color. However, I think the whiter-colored text is okay. That being said, I actually like the image on the left more, it's transparent enough to make the make the enemy sprite visible but has some a little color that makes the text pop out a little more.
As for "melee attack" those are the skill names displayed so a different thing from targeting, I think that might work (maybe I will display a gradient to black overlay).
Although "melee attack" is designated for a skill name, it would share same issue of readability, being on the same spot as the damage preview. Not to mention, it's using a even smaller text size and having short duration.

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Re: Art Thread [Planet Stronghold 2]

Post by jack1974 » Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:08 pm

The thing is that the images I posted are readable to me too :lol: but if you play the game windowed, it's impossible to read them (because the text is much smaller). Playing in fullscreen is fine instead. But I can't design something that is hard to play while windowed. Anyway this is a minor problem, it can be changed easily :)

As for the skills I checked and indeed it's different, uses a thicker black outline than the normal texts, so making it more readable. I will make the text bigger though in any case. All those things can be tweaked during testing of course.

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Re: Art Thread [Planet Stronghold 2]

Post by Troyen » Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:28 pm

To be fair, the colored Explosive text is a little hard for me to read on your original screenshot too, which I assume wasn't zoomed in. Maybe the text color needs to be a few shades brighter?

Of course, this is all on borugrubs, a brighter-colored enemy might make the rest of it hard to read.

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Re: Art Thread [Planet Stronghold 2]

Post by jack1974 » Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:21 pm

Troyen wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:28 pm
Of course, this is all on borugrubs, a brighter-colored enemy might make the rest of it hard to read.
Yes lol that was the point: with a transparent background (or semi transparent) depends a lot on what kind of art there's behind it. A white/light text might be hard to read over a white/light enemy and so on. That's why I used that GUI image even if looks less "cool" :)

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