When did what is bad for a few become an objective bad for everyone? Do you realize that you are basically saying that it is bad if anything negative happens to anyone regardless of who they are? Firstly do you realize that if we did fallow that logic that would include Vampires to as they are sentient beings too, second that is just planly wrong and I could find millions of examples to prove it. Just one random example to prove how silly this argument is, I decide to start robing people and get catch, it is bad for me I am going to prison, it is not bad for all my future victims that I would rob if I wasn't catch, nor is it bad in general.P_Tigras wrote:It's certainly bad for the humans whom you kill, as well as their children who are now without parents, or their parents who are now without children.DarkWolf wrote:Does killing humans automatically make you bad?
I can assure you that I am not baying into any trend, if anything you probably won't ever meat a person who is more against mainstream and general majority opinions then me. I am defending vampires because I believe that if other sentient beings existed then to look at things objectively (or at least as objectively as possible) you have to put humanity aside and to look from that other beings prescriptive as well witch would be of no less importance. I do admit true that I favor a bit sentient beings that are not human over humanity because of my personal dislike toward humanity but that is part of why I said as objectively as possible. And I also admit that I favor even a bit more beings witch are generally considered evil because I myself am seen the same way in general and because I usually connect with those the most.P_Tigras wrote:That is just one story about vampires and illogical one, humans can get very hungry too, that doesn't mean our hunger will automatically overpower our rational thinking. Sure in some cases it might happen and some too hungry guy might start stealing to eat or something but when did what one does or what one might do make everyone of that race a bad guy? If that where the way things are then we would all be bad and that is a way of thinking that created racism.DarkWolf wrote:Sometimes, but not always. If they haven't eaten in awhile or they've been seriously injured the hunger can be overpowering.Sure they do kill and eat humans but they are not beasts they have intelligence and can choose who to kill and who not to kill,
P_Tigras wrote:Witch is why I included random criminals too, and you just can't run out of those, real world or Avaron.DarkWolf wrote:
That assumes they always have a larder full of real enemies to drain which is extremely improbable. If they run out of enemies then they will drain the juice boxes that are available, enemy or not.
This is exactly example of when I said humans can't look very objectively, If humans weren't the only sentient beings then they aren't the only ones who get to decide what is good and what bed much less just human law.
PS: Sorry about messed up quotes codes, I don't have time to fix them now, will do it when I return home.