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Re: favorite art style
Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:53 pm
by felyarpg
I'd say my favourite art style is manga, but I have quite hight standards
For example I don't like too much when male characters are too much feminine looking, or seem overly young, and in a lot of cases it happen to male characters in some manga styles, expecially if is for a female public.
Re: favorite art style
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:46 am
by jack1974
During the Summer Sale, many people played Heirs & Graces. All the new reviews starts with "if you can get past the bad art" and "forget the art" etc etc. But then, basically everyone (except 1 review) thought the writing/story/characters was great (and indeed it is, as I said several times I think it's one of my best written games).
So in summary those people held off buying for the art and then when they finally did it, for some the art didn't even matter much. I think it's a problem of modern gamers being totally spoiled
Which is a good thing of course, from their perspective! but basically last year I made two games with non-manga art, and for both that was one of the key factor for people to not even TRY them. Lesson learned
Re: favorite art style
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:54 am
by pahldus
jack1974 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:46 am
During the Summer Sale, many people played Heirs & Graces. All the new reviews starts with "if you can get past the bad art" and "forget the art" etc etc. But then, basically everyone (except 1 review) thought the writing/story/characters was great (and indeed it is, as I said several times I think it's one of my best written games).
So in summary those people held off buying for the art and then when they finally did it, for some the art didn't even matter much. I think it's a problem of modern gamers being totally spoiled
Which is a good thing of course, from their perspective! but basically last year I made two games with non-manga art, and for both that was one of the key factor for people to not even TRY them. Lesson learned
Well that just sucks ... not that I hate or even dislike manga style art, but that there it isn't economically feasible to do any other style. I really hate the hivemind mentality that is pervasive in our culture today. There is simply no room to be different, and that will stagnate us as a society.
...
Okay, stepping off my soapbox
Re: favorite art style
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:55 am
by Callista
Yeah, it is interesting how some VN fans will favor art over writing, story, etc., while others are the opposite. Personally, I think the writing is the most important factor so even if the art isn't to my liking, I can overlook it.
Re: favorite art style
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 7:30 am
by jack1974
Yes of course I know that not EVERYONE is like that. But the majority? sadly yes
Re: favorite art style
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 10:09 am
by Troyen
Callista wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:55 am
Yeah, it is interesting how some VN fans will favor art over writing, story, etc., while others are the opposite. Personally, I think the writing is the most important factor so even if the art isn't to my liking, I can overlook it.
Thing is you can't judge the writing until you start reading/playing it. But when you're browsing a list of a hundred titles, what do you see? The banner art and some screenshots. So art helps more in the selection process, writing is what keeps you hooked or makes you bury that title in the trash can.
Re: favorite art style
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 10:46 am
by jack1974
That's why I always tried to have good art for my games, but the moment I tried to do something different = instant fail
Personally I don't think PSCD or Heirs & Graces art is so HORRIBLE as some people say, just different style. As said many times, if it's stylized/cute manga, then mouth/nose/eyes/ears/body proportions can be all wrong and nobody cares (especially if it's the boobs size
) but if you try to make something slightly anatomically wrong in painted/realistic style=you're doomed!!
Re: favorite art style
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:09 pm
by Jaeger
There is a fine line between stylization and mistakes. Even a cartoonists should have a strong background in realism, otherwise they will limit themselves even in their preferred style.
That being said, it's possible to like a piece of art even if you notice a mistake. That's where subjectivity comes to play.