P_Tigras wrote:P_Tigras wrote:Sylrissa wrote:Yes I'd love to see an example of the female gentlemanly 'prince' type to sweep my girl off her feet.
Hmm...I was going to suggest an aristocratic woman who is somewhat disdainful of everyone not on her social level until they prove themselves to her. But...because gender-benders like this are so rare, and because I enjoy novel situations, I like the idea of the female gentlemanly 'prince' type who is assertive and able to sweep a protagonist of either gender off their feet. So I heartily approve of Sylrissa's suggestion and suggest that the character be bi.
After typing the above it dawned on me that to some, Loren might be perceived to fulfill these requirements, but Loren is more barbarian queen in manner and dress than gallant lady knight, and instead of starting out as the lady knight's slave, the protagonist would be courted by her instead. At least that's how I'm envisioning it. Although if the relationship were to turn into something of a rivalry fraught with romantic tension, it might be interesting if a joust or duel were to take place in which the loser would become the "spoils of war" to the winner.
Definitely like the way Loren doesn't fit traditional gender roles in terms of action(WW did a great job on the Amazon society), but I would like the "lady gentleman" character to actually look masculine. Short hair, or a low pony tail, with masculine facial and body features.
jack1974 wrote:Cool, thanks for the suggestions
About the transgender in PS2 there's Lakadema. In Loren 2 there's Nook that is the reverse (man looking girly) and I think Juliet could be considered a bit boyish (ahem apart her breast
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I am really liking Lakadema's inclusion, and that Nook is more feminine as well. Juliet definitely has a more masculine personality, although I would say that she still looks very feminine. (Just in a regal way instead of a beautiful or cute way.)
On Lakadema, I remember the discussion about being able to pick what pronouns you use for hir. That said, Lakadema really screams WOMAN to me. Gives off more of a futanari vibe than gender variant, if you will excuse the use of the term. (For those of you who don't know what that means, don't look it up unless you want to get lots of pornographic images. Basically I mean that she is stated not to be female in body but she has all the secondary and tertiary female sex characteristics, such as breasts, long eyelashes, female dress, female facial structure, delicate looking, etc.) Not that it's bad, necessarily, but rather that, while sie is not male or female, sie could probably be taken as female straight out if information about certain body parts was omitted. Of course, her looks are not the only important thing, how sie is treated in the writing is even more important! But that's what I gather on an appearance base only.
I would really like to have characters that don't fit in with traditional gender roles, too. The reason for trans characters as well is because I think it could make some pretty interesting situations. If I'm thinking about, for example, a game set in the US, then a trans character would face certain hardships that would be really interesting to delve into as you pursue their personal story route (if they are romanceable). Although, in games with a very different setting, in the future or in a more accepting society, then the trans character doesn't stand out as much but just the acceptance of their identity being totally fine is also really awesome to me.
I'm really happy with your games and their inclusion of homosexual relationships and gender variant characters! I just wanted to let you know that, as a non-straight trans person, playing your games is really empowering for me. Having it be so open and accepting as an environment, both in your games and on your forums, is really an experience that doesn't exist in the gaming community at large, so the fact that you are making your games the way you are is just wonderful! (Please excuse the gushing, but I really am appreciative!) :3
