Hey all! SilverHyena here. If you don't already know, I'm in charge of writing the yaoi dating sim that Jack mentioned awhile back. While we have the plot and other aspects down we're having trouble coming up with a cool title for the game. Thus, we figured we'd just ask you guys to see if you could come up with any good ideas.

Since that's nearly impossible without knowing what the game is about, here's a summary of the basic plot:



Marcel, our main character, is the illegitimate son of Lord Sandor-- an important noble with a vast amount of wealth. None of that status or wealth is Marcel's though as he's been raised solely by his poor mother without any involvement from his father. In order to meet his father without being recognized, Marcel gets a job as a servant. However, Lord Sandor figures out Marcel is his son and proposes a deal: if Marcel can prove that he's worthy, Lord Sandor will name him his heir.



So far we've been thinking a title with Inheritance in it or something. Like, the Sandor Inheritance or The Sandor Estate. I dunno. It's a work in progress.



Also, while I have your attention I'll ask about one more thing. For one of the stats I put Heraldry, but that's not quite the word I'm looking for. I'm hoping you guys can help me figure out a better one. What I'm trying to come up with is a stat that gets at how much knowledge the main character has regarding family trees and particular tastes/quirks/habits of nobles. How socially aware he is I guess. I don't know if I'm describing that well. Hopefully that makes sense.



Anyway, let us know your suggestions! And if you have any questions/comments/concerns feel free to put down those as well.

A bit early in the morning for me, but you might consider the term Savoir Faire, at least for dealing with noble, though it doesn't cover history.

What I'm trying to come up with is a stat that gets at how much knowledge the main character has regarding family trees and particular tastes/quirks/habits of nobles. How socially aware he is I guess.

I'm sorry, but this sounds much more like professional reader of yellow journalism than a "scientific" interest...

I think is something related mostly to "knowledge" and "history", genealogical tree etc, maybe scholarship ? I have no clue though lol, really hard for me to find the right words

What I'm trying to come up with is a stat that gets at how much knowledge the main character has regarding family trees and particular tastes/quirks/habits of nobles. How socially aware he is I guess.

I'm sorry, but this sounds much more like professional reader of yellow journalism than a "scientific" interest...

That's not quite what I'm trying to get at. It is a stat that would rely on knowing gossip to some extent, but I would say it is more informed than the wild claims in yellow journalism. I want it to be a stat that influences how knowledgeable Marcel is about the nobles he is serving. Like, if he has a high enough score in that stat he'll know things like how that noble prefers their tea, who they're related to, and what kind of relationships they have to other important people. Does that make more sense?

I would like a skill named yellow press master, but anyway It seems humanities like heraldry or genealogy are the complete wrong track, I believe you look more for attributes of a good butler. What about aristocratic etiquette?

Haha, that would most definitely be an interesting skill! :D And you're right. Heraldry only really gets at the family relationship aspect of it which is why I wanted to replace it. We already have a more general skill for etiquette but that probably wouldn't be a bad way to put it. I'd still like to avoid repeating the word etiquette though and I do want to make them different stats. Miakoda's suggestion of Savoir Faire might be the best way to put it. It definitely gets at part of it, anyway. Probably the more important part too.

I'd still like to avoid repeating the word etiquette though

<thesaurus>courtly manners</thesaurus>

Haha, good point. Should have thought of that.



I actually ended up doing that with Savoir Faire and got tact. I think that's the word I'm currently leaning towards at the moment. I'll think about it a bit more, but I'll probably end up going with that.



And now I need to focus on coming up with a title.

The plot reminds of The Princess and the Pea - maybe you could play with this? This would be quite easy if Jack is willing to create a localized German version - one variant of the fairy tale is called "Erbsenprobe" (peas' test), "Erbenprobe" (heirs' test) would be a nice wordplay [I nearly deleted this draft, because it's too stupid...]

I do love a good fairytale rewrite and a princess and the pea game would be interesting, but there's an aspect of the plot I haven't told you guys that diverts it from that fairytale even more than it already is. That being said, Heir's Test wouldn't be a bad name. We've gotten some other title suggestions from the lemmasoft forums so I'll probably pick out some of them, run them by jack, and then maybe see about posting a poll to get our final title soon-ish. Thanks for all your help so far! :D

So far we've been thinking a title with Inheritance in it or something. Like, the Sandor Inheritance or The Sandor Estate. I dunno. It's a work in progress.

Hi, I'm a bit late for the party here. Anyway, the millisecond I saw the name 'Sandor' I thought of Sandor Clegane, aka The Hound, from Game of Thrones. I'd personally find such a title with a hugely popular char name like that awfully misleading. Just a char name in the VN itself--- I guess that would be a smaller issue, but in a title... This might just be a personal concern of mine, though.

Yeah well, but is just a name... I mean if was "The Hound Estate"...

I had that association too, but just because I watched the S4 of GoT recently and we know what happened in the last episode to the Hound

I still think that "Sandor's Estate" could be fine as title, but of course I'm fine with whatever writer will choose Perhaps something about the heir/inheritance would be better indeed.

So far we've been thinking a title with Inheritance in it or something. Like, the Sandor Inheritance or The Sandor Estate. I dunno. It's a work in progress.

Hi, I'm a bit late for the party here. Anyway, the millisecond I saw the name 'Sandor' I thought of Sandor Clegane, aka The Hound, from Game of Thrones. I'd personally find such a title with a hugely popular char name like that awfully misleading. Just a char name in the VN itself--- I guess that would be a smaller issue, but in a title... This might just be a personal concern of mine, though.

I didn't think of that. Then again, I know him best as just the Hound. Anyway, I don't think it'd be a huge deal to use Sandor in the title, but Game of Thrones is very popular (because it's flippin' awesome) so you might not be alone in that assumption. You might be right in suggesting we steer clear of it. We'll see though. I guess it all comes down to which one we think sounds the best.

Title... Titles are hard. :/ I'll see if I can think and come back to it.



For the skill, perhaps ancestry?

You may consider "Lineage" or "Heraldic Studies (or Learnings)" depending on how wordy a stat name you'd like to have.

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first BW sketches of Marcel, the main character of this game need to pick one of them...

Why only one?

Because are variants the artist is making, so I need to pick one Marcel himself will have more outfits in the game, but these are all variants of the "servant" outfit!

I'm kinda in two minds... the outfit number 2 or number 4...

Anyhow, it'd be long before this yaoi game is done right? @@