ValHallen
Oct 16, 2014
sketch of a new character, Lola the war reporter.
SHE CAN'T BE ROMANCED...YET
For now she is just a secondary character. Depending how things go, might do DLC with possibility to romance her and other characters... 
She really is a Fox 
Blonde, dark skin and have Fox as her surname... Rebecca moms or aunt confirmed!
Miakoda
Oct 16, 2014
Blonde, dark skin and have Fox as her surname... Rebecca moms or aunt confirmed!
Nailed it
She's actually a aunt, for those keeping score.
I'm glad you like her as well Sylrissa, and canyonaz. And I give a major thanks to Jack1974 for including her :D
Edit:
Will be a great-aunt. Sorry about that.
Exizel
Oct 16, 2014
Tsk tsk why are you all focusing on a simple word like "yet"??? I don't understand... 
because it's a magic word, one you may regret one day, but still magic
Jokes apart, I'm really pleased of the artwork. There's now another character, a rebel (an ancestor of Damien!). Curious to see how he will turn out too 
Ancestor is kind of a big word no??? It gives the impression that the games happen centuries before PS or the reason for using this word is to hide something

(His parental link with Damien or....)
ValHallen
Oct 16, 2014
Blonde, dark skin and have Fox as her surname... Rebecca moms or aunt confirmed!
Nailed it
She's actually an aunt, for those keeping score.
I'm glad you like her as well Sylrissa, and canyonaz. And I give a major thanks to Jack1974 for including her :D
And now I will play a celibate Alex, until she can be romanced

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To me a Nelson man can only belong to a Fox woman.
Rebecca and Cassidy had already been born? If they have been born, I hope Lola talk about them.
jack1974
Oct 16, 2014
Ancestor is kind of a big word no??? It gives the impression that the games happen centuries before PS or the reason for using this word is to hide something
(His parental link with Damien or....)
AH OK, Uhm that's the first word that I got from the online translator
Rebecca and Cassidy had already been born? If they have been born, I hope Lola talk about them.
No because while I never told explicitly the age of Rebecca, she looks young (no older than 30 for sure, even if of course with manga art all is a bit relative!) so is not possible, because in PS1 you play as nephew/niece of John Nelson, so a gap of two generations

ValHallen
Oct 16, 2014
Ancestor is kind of a big word no??? It gives the impression that the games happen centuries before PS or the reason for using this word is to hide something
(His parental link with Damien or....)
AH OK, Uhm that's the first word that I got from the online translator
Rebecca and Cassidy had already been born? If they have been born, I hope Lola talk about them.
No because while I never told explicitly the age of Rebecca, she looks young (no older than 30 for sure, even if of course with manga art all is a bit relative!) so is not possible, because in PS1 you play as nephew/niece of John Nelson, so a gap of two generations 
Always thought Rebecca was in her late 20 or early 30, since she is a sargeant she would need to be a veteran soldier.
And its not only one generation? John, Alex, Diama, Damien dad, Lola generation to Joshua/Lisa, Damien, Rebecca generation
Exizel
Oct 16, 2014
Ancestor is kind of a big word no??? It gives the impression that the games happen centuries before PS or the reason for using this word is to hide something
(His parental link with Damien or....)
AH OK, Uhm that's the first word that I got from the online translator
Rebecca and Cassidy had already been born? If they have been born, I hope Lola talk about them.
No because while I never told explicitly the age of Rebecca, she looks young (no older than 30 for sure, even if of course with manga art all is a bit relative!) so is not possible, because in PS1 you play as nephew/niece of John Nelson, so a gap of two generations 
Always thought Rebecca was in her late 20 or early 30, since she is a sargeant she would need to be a veteran soldier.
And its not only one generation? John, Alex, Diama, Damien dad, Lola generation to Joshua/Lisa, Damien, Rebecca generation
The fact that you call Damien's relatives his dad made me realise that it was logical that Lola wasn't rebecca 's mom.
If she was then she wouldn't be a love interest(well right now she isn't) becausse it would imply that rebecca may be of "nelson blood"if romance by alex(romance by Diana is another story), and it would make a big plot hole with the "Joshua/Lisa is special because s/he is the nephew/niece of John Nelson".
ValHallen
Oct 16, 2014
The fact that you call Damien's relatives his dad made me realise that it was logical that Lola wasn't rebecca 's mom.
If she was then she wouldn't be a love interest(well right now she isn't) becausse it would imply that rebecca may be of "nelson blood"if romance by alex(romance by Diana is another story), and it would make a big plot hole with the "Joshua/Lisa is special because s/he is the nephew/niece of John Nelson".
I dont think Damien relative is his dad, I think he will be his uncle or another relative
I mentioned Damien dad because Damien tell us his dad fought alongside John Nelson, so I think they have the same age range.
And I really doubt Joshua/Lisa is the newphew of John, specially because Alex can be gay and Diana cant be their mother
jack1974
Oct 16, 2014
Depends how you think it, normally nephew/niece means is the son of son, no? (I am a bit tired but I think is correct

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So it COULD be (just making a random example eh):
Diana/Alex/John Nelson -> Random Wife/Husband Nelson -> Lisa/Joshua (niece/nephew of John)
the Random Wife/Husband would be the son/daughter of John, and Lisa/Joshua would be their kid. Isn't two generations this way ? lol is too late here I can't really think now

ValHallen
Oct 16, 2014
Depends how you think it, normally nephew/niece means is the son of son, no? (I am a bit tired but I think is correct
)
So it COULD be (just making a random example eh):
Diana/Alex/John Nelson -> Random Wife/Husband Nelson -> Lisa/Joshua (niece/nephew of John)
the Random Wife/Husband would be the son/daughter of John, and Lisa/Joshua would be their kid. Isn't two generations this way ? lol is too late here I can't really think now 
A newphew/niece is the child of your brother/sister
The sons of a son would be a grandson
Exizel
Oct 16, 2014
I dont think Damien relative is his dad, I think he will be his uncle or another relative
I mentioned Damien dad because Damien tell us his dad fought alongside John Nelson, so I think they have the same age range.
opss, my mistake, I also dont think he's Damien's dad for the same reason I gave for Lola(If he become a love interest)
And I really doubt Joshua/Lisa is the newphew of John, specially because Alex can be gay and Diana cant be their mother
I didn't mean that Joshua/Lisa is the nephew/niece of JN(I wouldn't be surprise if he/she is the son/daugther instead) ,but they are know has such,I was only talking about the fact that it wouldn't make any sense(scenaristic wise) to make Alex or Diana to be a possible parent of one the character of PS so Lola can't be the mother of Rebecca if she is a love interest.
ValHallen
Oct 16, 2014
I dont think Damien relative is his dad, I think he will be his uncle or another relative
I mentioned Damien dad because Damien tell us his dad fought alongside John Nelson, so I think they have the same age range.
opss, my mistake, I also dont think he's Damien's dad for the same reason I gave for Lola(If he become a love interest)
And I really doubt Joshua/Lisa is the newphew of John, specially because Alex can be gay and Diana cant be their mother
I didn't mean that Joshua/Lisa is the nephew/niece of JN(I wouldn't be surprise if he/she is the son/daugther instead) ,but they are know has such,I was only talking about the fact that it wouldn't make any sense(scenaristic wise) to make Alex or Diana to be a possible parent of one the character of PS so Lola can't be the mother of Rebecca if she is a love interest.
I think Jack originally planned John to be the grandfather of Joshua/Lisa, but instead wrote newphew/niece in the game
Now everything is confusing
Exizel
Oct 16, 2014
I dont think Damien relative is his dad, I think he will be his uncle or another relative
I mentioned Damien dad because Damien tell us his dad fought alongside John Nelson, so I think they have the same age range.
opss, my mistake, I also dont think he's Damien's dad for the same reason I gave for Lola(If he become a love interest)
And I really doubt Joshua/Lisa is the newphew of John, specially because Alex can be gay and Diana cant be their mother
I didn't mean that Joshua/Lisa is the nephew/niece of JN(I wouldn't be surprise if he/she is the son/daugther instead) ,but they are know has such,I was only talking about the fact that it wouldn't make any sense(scenaristic wise) to make Alex or Diana to be a possible parent of one the character of PS so Lola can't be the mother of Rebecca if she is a love interest.
I think Jack originally planned John to be the grandfather of Joshua/Lisa, but instead wrote newphew/niece in the game
Now everything is confusing
He did wrote the game himself if I remember correctly.I thought it was great that the hero isn't a direct descendant for once, that also explain the gaps of 2 generation he post about.

(the only other game where I saw this was the first fire emblem ,marth could weld flashion because of the blood of Henri in his vain but he was the descendant of henry's brother)
jack1974
Oct 16, 2014
Yes, it is confusing because in italian (my language) there isn't such difference

so that's why was confusing. Anyway been thinking with Miakoda about some possible suggestions, since in PS1 I always wrote niece/nephew...

Miakoda
Oct 16, 2014
I think the best course of action will be a slight ret-con for Planet Stronghold, changing Joshua/Lisa to be a great-nephew/great-niece in Planet Stronghold 1.
The other option is to move Alex and Diana back one generation, and this could mean John is the son of one of them. Since PSCD is in such an early stage, I don't mind doing that
And I understand where you are coming from Jack1974. Many other countries/languages can use a general term without getting more specific, especially beyond the most immediate part of a family.
Exizel
Oct 16, 2014
Yes, it is confusing because in italian (my language) there isn't such difference
so that's why was confusing. Anyway been thinking with Miakoda about some possible suggestions, since in PS1 I always wrote niece/nephew... 
it's at that moment you look back at everything you said and scream "FAIS CHIER!!!!!putain la honte,je suis trops con, PUTAIN,AAARRRGGGHHHH!!!!" while taking you head in your hands(and with a little luck no one saw you and think you're crazy).At least that what I do when that happen to me

(i don't think I need to translated that

,everyone can easily guess.)
it's just a little mistake just act like Joshua/Lisa was supposed to be the nephew/niece from the very begining

and you can still change PSCD to adapt if it is possible or.....retcon.
ValHallen
Oct 16, 2014
I think the best course of action will be a slight ret-con for Planet Stronghold, changing Joshua/Lisa to be a great-nephew/great-niece in Planet Stronghold 1.
The other option is to move Alex and Diana back one generation, and this could mean John is the son of one of them. Since PSCD is in such an early stage, I don't mind doing that 
And I understand where you are coming from Jack1974. Many other countries/languages can use a general term without getting more specific, especially beyond the most immediate part of a family.
Or maybe John is the real father of Joshua/Lisa! He discovered a terrible secret in Planet Stronghold and had to vanish, he hided on Mars with a new identity, married and had a son/daughter, but he was assassinated by his pursuers.
Imagine the plot twist!
Miakoda
Oct 17, 2014
First, Mizuki's picture:


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Note: I promise to update the first post with all the pictures mentioned in this thread.
Additionally, I believe we've resolved the Grandfather/Grandmother Paradox of PSCD and PS1
Nothing is invalidated in PS 1, so John Nelson will remain the uncle of John/Lisa Nelson.
However, since Colonial Defense is still early in development, we will move Diana and Alex back one generation: This means Alex/Diana may be the father/mother of John Nelson. This would mean Lisa/Joshua would be the granddaughter/grandson of Alex/Diana.
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Exizel
Oct 17, 2014
So mizuki is the hacker of the group and an ex-criminal

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Does alex and diana still have a brother???
Miakoda
Oct 17, 2014
So mizuki is the hacker of the group and an ex-criminal
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Does alex and diana still have a brother???
If they do, it isn't John
More seriously, the answer is no. I will have to do some changes on profiles, and some of the dialogues to reflect this.