Ahh no wait, I think I know what's the problem my fault (obviously lol) put a condition in a wrong place!

Okay, painfully annoying bug. I am not sure exactly how it happened, but team elf missed out on a whole level up's worth of stats. Let me try anyway...



All three were level 6 when going to collect the bear for the last quest. All three of them hit level 7 when I completed it. I was however in SKIP SKIP SKIP mode so I didn't even catch their level up. I assigned their stats on the first wave of guards and thought all was fine. However now the twins dinged 8 and I thought hey, didn't I already raise those stats? I compared to level 1s with the same birthday gifts and concluded I was indeed missing 5 stat points.



Before that though, I looked at Vaelis in the level up screen. He had NOT gained enough exp for level 8, note this. However his agility was 13+5, meaning those 5 agility points I had assigned him at level 7 were still redistributable. But when I look at his actual stats, his agility is 13 (which it was at level 6) and not 18.



So I loaded my level 6 pre-bear save (and gave myself a huge cookie for keeping that save). This time I didn't go crazy skipping and I assigned their stats right away and they kept them. I then loaded that save again and I skipped the level up screen this time, but not like a lightning bolt on steroids, so no blaming an overworked computer. I assigned their stats after the first guard wave and that behavior holds true for all three of them: The stats are never assigned but remain as 14+5 or whatever. They never gain the attributes. Presumably on the next level up, those stat points disappear altogether.



It looks like http://i.imgur.com/u4e1iOA.png every time I finish a battle and click Shea, even though I have already assigned and accepted those points. To make it inescapably clear, when I proceed past this screen and check his stats, his agility is 9, not 14.



I can't say what ultimately causes this behavior, but everyone who's ever assigned stats on the guard waves at the end of act 1 might not have kept them. Doomsday



Also, changing the point distribution afterwards doesn't help, it doesn't keep those points anyway. If I press reset the points disappear altogether. Unassigning them and assigning them on another victory screen doesn't help. Swords are not good at repairing games.



Sent you some relevant saves.

Yes happens here too. Totally absurd Going to look...

Using automatic assignment works, so is something related to doing it manually.



edit: tried to empty the formation, and then reassign the party members just before the bear battle, and then the level up worked fine. So I think is a problem related to the party screen. I definitely must get rid of that buggy drag&drop screen system ASAP since only causes troubles!!

The level up works fine if you accept it right after the bear battle (well when you get the quest xp and level up). But if you assign the stats anytime later (like on the guard waves), like I did, they are not kept and become ghost points. I can go back to the bear battle but that sets me back 1 hour. I am doing that now, but obviously this fate might still befall others

So the actual steps are:

1) win bear battle and NOT assign the point

2) win 1st guard wave and try to assign the points

correct ?

Yes.



Interestingly enough, when I press reset points on the guard waves while this bug is in place, I don't lose the points. That happens in act 2 though.

But later works ? I mean I have saves from you and other people that I'm using in Act3, and the attribute are assigned just fine! I don't understand what is happening here...

Later works? No, those points are never added to my stats. I don't think I've seen this happen any other time though. I'm a power addict so you'd expect me to notice losing out on stat points

Yes fast skipping battles using cheats, the 3 elves are bugged. But for example Riley is just fine.

Congratulations! you found the super rare bug that happens 1 out of 1500 matches!

I think is related to that switch place bug you had since is just not possible that happened either... I'm sorry but honestly I don't know how to fix this I mean, on Riley even works!! so the code is identical...

Okay I did not skip any battles, I skipped dialogues



Also it happens even when I don't fast forward through it. Are you saying you get to keep the stats if you assign them on the guard waves?

Skipping doesn't matter I think. No I don't keep stats, but the bug is only for the 3 elves. Once Riley join for him is all normal.

I played a bit more, and after some level ups it went back working normally even for the 3 elves. So it happens only in that part. Not sure why though. I summoned Anima spirit for this quest

I forgive you only because I swiftly casinod even better rings than Riley had when I discovered my elves were being cheated on stats. Or well, as good but cheaper :D



This though... when I click an item in the shop, my inventory vanishes. I'm pretty sure that's new... and not very good, since I have to leave and revisit the shop to sell items to be able to afford my PRECIOUS.

Okay wait. I think something is totally wrong with your save. It might be corrupted, or is the latest version that has issues. Did you start it with which version ?

95% sure it was 0.8.24.3

And which shop has that issue, the one in Ninim ?

Okay what I *think* is happening with the attributes is:

1) you level up with a quest = OK

2) you level up after a fight = bugged



but curiously this should have happened since... ages!

Every shop in Dingirra so far.



Ninim shops too, checked with the bear save.

Ahh that! I thought the ITEMS were disappearing! yes is a bug I introduced in last version but I was fixing already. The items are good, is only the panel that disappears

The attribute bug is harder though, still working on it.

All right I think I also fixed the level up attribute bug. This was happening since the first betas though since it was a part I changed very early in the development

In practice was applying the changes only to the characters who had the text "LEVEL UP!" in the post-battle screen. So if you didn't assign all attributes at that time, you couldn't assign them anymore until next level up.



I tested a bit here and seems working now!

Made the new update, thanks again for spotting those bugs, they were really hard (in my case I was always using auto-assign on every level up, so I never had that problem!).

...inventory vanishes (like it did in stores) when I click an item in my inventory screen (not shop open, i-key stuff)



I can't use Cross Cut. Wearing two clubs, vs. ants. Yes staggered I also checked vs. the queen, still couldn't use. Pre-emptive check by the way: Will it reduce max HP by 30% since it's a double hit?



My party heals to full after every ant fight.



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renke, you ruin Jack's next weekend with reporting some other bugs the Secret Club has known about for 2 months ok?