For Joanne will find another use of the critical, maybe the debuff length or power. Or maybe I'll just use same system for Joanne too

For Joanne will find another use of the critical, maybe the debuff length or power.

These are good ideas. I didn't dare suggest something like that because it felt like feature creep

I haven't checked, maybe adding this would break other stuff. For now is just an idea

Idea for Kira ability, instead of Wide Slash:



Into the Fray

Removes Protect from the target, and lowers Kira's defense by x for y turns.



Kira knows her way around a fight and can break up enemy ranks, albeit at some expense to her own safety.



Higher ranks could be cheaper, faster, lower defense penalty, etc. Or no penalty to begin with, but I felt such a powerful ability should have it.

But this way against enemies without protect, it would be useless ? Not sure if that's a good idea...

Well, Protect wasn't very rare in the version we got to try

There are several enemies who use it of course, but designing a skill like that... I mean, if no enemy has protect, it would just lower Kira's defense, and so be of no use. No other skill has no use in any condition as far as I remember. I think each skill should give a bonus, so not destroy protect and reduce Kira's defense.

Hmm, I just don't want the niches to overlap. For example it could lower enemy's defense if there is no Protect (if that is easy enough to program), but both Kira and Thalia can already reduce enemy defense.



Also the way I play, an ability that removes Protect could be very crippling if used against me so that was kind of the reasoning behind attaching a penalty ^^

Ah you mean an ability that also enemies could use. Yeah that could be interesting then

As far as I've seen, you've been very liberal with letting monsters use player abilities anyway. Not that I mind, makes it easy to figure out what they do.

As far as I've seen, you've been very liberal with letting monsters use player abilities anyway. Not that I mind, makes it easy to figure out what they do.

Well...when they play by the same rules. That's not always the case.

For some boss battles I had to use some more powerful skills, otherwise was too easy even in Nightmare mode

I'm going to replace Kira's Focus target effects with this "break protect" thing. Since the focus target was a bit of a duplicate of Thalia's "Take Aim", so... it will be different too

If you find Protect to be too little for it to remove, you could perhaps add Hold the Line. I was going to say Counter Attack and Dodge too, but thematically that would probably feel weird. Hide in Shadows could be considered. And Distracting Blows.



I'll just stop adding to this list because I'll cry blood if enemies end up spamming a skill like this against me.

Haha believe me, just removing protect will already turn the tides of battle.

turn1: skeleton warrior protect skeleton mage

turn2: kira destroys protect

turn3: thalia uses Fatality on skeleton mage -> critical -> skeleton mage is dead



my fear is that will be too powerful, but... we'll see

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in the end I replaced wide slash, because indeed was a bit pointless skill since there is already the strikethrough I tested it and it's quite fun, was a good idea. In general counter-effect skills are nice. Now, going to add it to some enemies...

A bit late but I think it'll actually bother me to not see their speed. I figure sooner or later I or someone else will ask you for the delay formula and I'll be all zomgtheorycraft over it. Not like there isn't space for it.

I thought about that too while testing. I could put it between HP and SP maybe ?

Or below evasion, or below crit. It's not symmetrical but there's definitely space for it. I would prefer putting between HP and SP like you said though.

Whhhhhattt! it MUST be symmetrical!! I'll put between HP and SP then.

Today tried Darkest Dungeon at a friend's home, and (unless I missed it) they don't even display turn order. I thought was weird when enemies attacked me 2-3 times in a row and I had no clue why.