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thesleepykitten
No pressure. If anything, I can't wait to return to the game. :D
Fearsome
I am looking forward to the Male and Female potential expansions on this- as it is I am really looking forward to the Yuri H3, and will be playing the first two as I get time to be ready for the Yuri launch. :D
thesleepykitten
We'll see what we can do about the expansions. ^^; It's so far ahead into the future, I'm not sure what's planned to be honest. ^_^; (Post-marriage, BL, Yuri... I'm not sure...)



But I'll do my best on the base game, and once that's done, we can go from there. ^^
jack1974
The problem with a yuri version as said before is that the artist I used for the characters is quite slow :oops: Even if I guess I could ask him now, maybe for 2014 would have finished... :lol:
Fearsome
:P you say that like a bad thing! When he finishes the main game, then ask him to start on the expansion art, and so on. ;)

it gives enough time to really polish everything, and if the game comes out late 2013, and the expansion summer 2014, and the Yaoi expansion/re-release comes early summer or late spring 2015, it means a steady stream of people discovering and buying the game for the next 2+ years. :P
jack1974
Just got answer by artist and he said he can do the girls :) So maybe there's hope! Once he has done all the girls (there are 12 in total!) I'll ask if he can do also 3 male boys main character, so then we would have everything to do a BxG and BxB version too. And then that game will pass the 500k words... :lol:
thesleepykitten
Wow, 500k, that's more text than the Lord of the Rings trilogy, or A Dance with Dragons book.



Poor writer. :lol:



Kidding aside, I know it'll be spread out. The base game is roughly 1/3 done...
jack1974
Haha well once you finish the base game we can see. We could reuse some scenes adding different choices based on the gender and so on. And just to be clear every version will be released like a standalone game over the time (each one will take a lot of testing/writing), but will also probably offer an "all-in-one" version (featuring all combos) and that one will be very likely over 500k words :lol:
Fearsome
I will be honest- I will buy EACH version, at full cost, and then the all in one version, because I adore everything you two are.



I am so looking forward to this, you don't even know. Seriously.



THIS is the game I fell in love with.



THIS is the reason I came to try all the others.



THIS is the game I will be looking forward to this year, more than I looked forward to Skyrim, even. <3 I love all the games I've tried so far, but Spirited Heart spirited away my heart. Love it and love you fantastic people for all your hard work on this new game.
Sylrissa
I will be honest- I will buy EACH version, at full cost, and then the all in one version, because I adore everything you two are.



I am so looking forward to this, you don't even know. Seriously.



THIS is the game I fell in love with.



THIS is the reason I came to try all the others.



THIS is the game I will be looking forward to this year, more than I looked forward to Skyrim, even. <3 I love all the games I've tried so far, but Spirited Heart spirited away my heart. Love it and love you fantastic people for all your hard work on this new game.


My sentiments exactly, and I said so to him on twitter soon after seeing the announcement.



SH is also the first WW game I ever played, and what led me to Jacks website to take a look at what other games might be available, and now I own most of them.
jack1974
Haha wow, NO PRESSURE EH!!??? :lol:

Thanks for the support, for sure I won't hurry this game since I want to make it better than the first one. More characters/romance but also more detailed life-sim gameplay.
Fearsome
Not pressure- encouragement! :P

XD

And I would be willing to wait till 2015 if needed for this game. ;)
jack1974
Good because that could be a good release date :lol: I'm joking, but I have no clue really when I'll work on it, but having all the texts ready before starting coding a game is quite good :)
Fearsome
<3 Yep! I will be cheerfully rooting for it, no matter if it comes out this spring or next fall. ;)



And it's always best when the writer leads instead of follows last. That's why so many mediocre "publishing house" games happen, they bring in the writer after the game is mostly done, instead of bringing in the writer first, and keeping him around to make changes as needed.
thesleepykitten
Haha wow, NO PRESSURE EH!!??? :lol:


Juuuust a tiny bit. =,)
jack1974
Ok let's start the new year with some GOOD NEWS! :lol:

Artist after agreeing to draw the females for the yuri, is now having second thoughts... I am trying to convince him, but in case I have to find someone it would be a problem. I mean a different art for the women only... I did that for the first game but I really hoped I didn't had to do it even for the sequel !! :oops:
Sylrissa
Ok let's start the new year with some GOOD NEWS! :lol:

Artist after agreeing to draw the females for the yuri, is now having second thoughts... I am trying to convince him, but in case I have to find someone it would be a problem. I mean a different art for the women only... I did that for the first game but I really hoped I didn't had to do it even for the sequel !! :oops:


Well that's just great, :x



Yeah. I do see what you mean, that change of art style really stood out from the rest in the first one.



Hopefully you can convince him, as you saw the reaction the news got before.
jack1974
Nope, I tried to talk but it's against his religious beliefs. I'm honestly shocked that in 2013 there are still people with such "beliefs" :roll: maybe he thinks that by drawing images for a yuri game his soul will burn in hell?

He said would be ok if they were just "friendship" routes but not romances. Though I'm not sure it makes sense to have the boy with romances and the girls with just friendship, seems a bit unbalanced. And also, the line between friendship and love is often quite subtle in same sex relationships. Oh well, at this point, either I don't do it or I have to use different art style. I spent too much money already to do all the boys and girls for the otome version, so redoing all the art is not an option...



I think as form of protest I'll release some games yuri or yaoi only in the near future.
josipa24
Nope, I tried to talk but it's against his religious beliefs. I'm honestly shocked that in 2013 there are still people with such "beliefs" :roll: maybe he thinks that by drawing images for a yuri game his soul will burn in hell?

He said would be ok if they were just "friendship" routes but not romances. Though I'm not sure it makes sense to have the boy with romances and the girls with just friendship, seems a bit unbalanced. And also, the line between friendship and love is often quite subtle in same sex relationships. Oh well, at this point, either I don't do it or I have to use different art style. I spent too much money already to do all the boys and girls for the otome version, so redoing all the art is not an option...


Bah, I can't believe it. And he'd be okay with 'friendship'. How generous of him :x .



Anyway , I'm not letting him ruin my good mood. I've just seen that awesome Juliet video in the Heileen 3 thread and I definitely wouldn't say no to this:


I think as form of protest I'll release some games yuri or yaoi only in the near future.


Do it, Jack! :mrgreen: And whatever you do with SH2, you've got my support. I mean, I'll never say no to more yuri, but I definitely see how this changes everything.
Fearsome
Uhm, so... an idea.

Make the core game Het, let him be a complete berk, and then do the game plus for the Yuri, different love interests, through different eyes... It's the story told by the Daughter of of your daughter, of course the art is different!



And have a Yaoi version way later.



So no smushing the different arts together- to have a child born of the mother, she would need sex with a male anywho, so, Het for the base game, and then, when you have the Yuri ready to go, add in the game + feature we discussed that you mentioned might be in SH2... <3



Also, you might find some specialized Yuri and Yaoi artists willing to work for a percentage of sales instead of up front commissions, I know a few that would be keen for it if they weren't swamped with commissions from friends.