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jack1974
Level 16 max is good. I probably could lower it slightly more, but for now will do :)

So Yeldin is still a walk in the park in NM? I powered it up a bit, but probably not enough :lol: if you want to send me all your saves in a .zip I could do some testing with your party to make that bastard Yelding a worthy opponent!
fabulaparva
Just sent you mah Yeldin file. Yeah, he's slightly more troublesome now, but for nightmare he's a total wimp. :D
jack1974
I'll make a separate version for the NM, since now I think in Normal mode is good enough. thanks for the saves :)
yayswords
I told you in the very first reply he was too easy :(
jack1974
Yes but was a kind of a crazy day so forgot about it, sorry! Now I have added three more mirror images of Yeldin with another set of skills in the backrow. I can't win it anymore, but of course I'm not a NM player myself :mrgreen:

So on next update hopefully the fight won't be too hard. As said I made this change only for Hard/NM, so other difficulty are unaffected :)
fabulaparva
By the way
- replaced Jariel voice with new one, unfortunately the old VA couldn't record the voice trailer for the game so had to replace the voice also in combat :/ some skills have the new vocal jingle, others not yet

Is one supposed to hear these jingles when the enemy is using them, too (and there's no Jariel in the fight party) ? Because I heard them in the fight against the Blades of Moon.
jack1974
Ah no lol, is because one of those enemies is a bard, but definitely not jariel! (she's female too!). Will change it :)
jack1974
Managed to miraculously work this morning and upload 0.8.20. Several updates and an improved Gamesh quest :)
fabulaparva
Love the new Yeldin fight, haven't been able to beat it yet, but I will :mrgreen:

I probably will have to tinker with Jariel's build to be able do that (which is a good thing since this is nightmare :P) Speaking of which:

Song of Purity is bugged. First time ever trying it and if I'm understanding this correct.... it should target the whole party, but it's targeting only one person. On top of that, it's someone completely else than whose icon I'm clicking on... no matter who I click, it only casts the spell on the topmost frontrow fighter.
yayswords
Yeah I tried new Yeldin too just now, though with an old save with underleveled and poorly built characters. I didn't beat him :P



New party will pwnzor him of course. But not today.
jack1974
Found the problem with song of purity, in the area parameter I put "all" instead of "All" :mrgreen:

Though I'd rather wait a bit to do an update and not just for that. You must defeat Yeldin without that skill! (for now)
renke_
Chalassa's quest has a more interesting text - but for every guard the same ("A guard steps into view and ..."). Not really better than before - still repetetive and even one screen more for every assassination.
yayswords
Beating Yeldin with Chalassa in the party is a clear candidate for an achievement by the way. It could be called Unbeatable, because she's not considered to have lost a fight (in the arena) before that point, right?



We should make a thread for achievement ideas! :D



Side note: After like 1 minute of mousewheel roulette the rare shop is selling 3 necklaces with 5, 5 and 4 SPR. But I messed up in act one and transitioned with way too much gold and lost most of it of course. WOE IS ME, for SPR is expensive as hell.
jack1974
Chalassa's quest has a more interesting text - but for every guard the same ("A guard steps into view and ..."). Not really better than before - still repetetive and even one screen more for every assassination.

If there's time will redo that one better, but I doubt it :)
We should make a thread for achievement ideas! :D

Yes, feel free to do that, ideas for achievements are always welcome!
WOE IS ME, for SPR is expensive as hell.

Yes, I decided to raise the prices since those items with SP/HP regen are really powerful 8)
renke_
Blades of Moon fight crashes with NameError: global name 'SongOfPurityE' is not defined.
renke_
Chalassa's quest has a more interesting text - but for every guard the same ("A guard steps into view and ..."). Not really better than before - still repetetive and even one screen more for every assassination.

If there's time will redo that one better, but I doubt it :)

hmm, you have more lines - but those are only used if Chalassa sneaks. If you would use two different counter (one for living guards, the other for scene changes) you could display the better text also for ruthless killers :)
jack1974
Oops time for an emergency fix for the crash :)
renke_
thanks, it works.



but another question - what is the governing attribute for the bard songs? I'm rather unsure how to level Jariel...
jack1974
He is a sort of hybrid class, the song are influenced by Magic, however if you noticed they're weak, they don't do high direct damage but have long term negative effects and hit all enemies. And his normal attacks (melee/ranged) are influenced by Attack value. So it really depends how you want to level him up. Personally I would raise his attack since this way he can buff/heal/debuff and then hit with ranged/melee while the effects are still active.
yayswords
Personally I would raise his attack since this way he can buff/heal/debuff and then hit with ranged/melee while the effects are still active.

That sounds like a total waste. I would much rather make sure his offensive songs (and VS) are always up - if one has enough duration, add another - than do a measly attack. The dispel-song is great too. As far as 6v6 battles go, I don't see myself ever attacking with Jariel, unless he has some golden opportunity to finish an opponent before it can get healed. I will increase his speed.



Also, his only nuke doesn't work on bosses. I hope Jariel's flashback will give him a party.



Just noticed his offensive songs are like Riley's nukes were: scared, slowed, weakened... shattered. Thematically it should be confused on Dragon Dirge. Intended?