@Themobboss: That's intriguing. I'll give it a go.
scc810Apr 12, 2012
loren
the game is about her afterall
jack1974Apr 13, 2012
Wondering if the vote will change also after hearing the battle voices
Amukiki's voice is amazing. Seems really to hear a big barbarian doing a battle! All the voices are good, but that one really did stand out.
/CRUEL JACK MODE ON:
Also Chambara's voice = the most sexy voice I've ever heard! A pity you won't be able to hear it until the expansion is out!
Jim1958Apr 13, 2012
Wondering if the vote will change also after hearing the battle voices
/CRUEL JACK MODE ON:
Also Chambara's voice = the most sexy voice I've ever heard! A pity you won't be able to hear it until the expansion is out!
When people are cruel it backfires on them. Now you will have to put up with daily emails asking when the expansion will be out
Best Regards
Jim
ArgleBargleApr 13, 2012
I think Loren was the best; since her growing to respect the PC happens regardless of romance, so that being interwoven with the romance if you pursue it fleshes everything out nicely. I was surprised how much I liked Draco's though, I'm not usually a BxB person but his whole "put up a jokesy front to deal with life constantly crapping on me" deal was adorable. I wasn't considering Karen's either until the rafter scene when I hnnnnnghd pretty hard. Basically they're all pretty good, those were my favorites
ankewlApr 13, 2012
So is no one going to do a "stoic hero who has no time for romance" as their first playthrough?
jack1974Apr 13, 2012
So is no one going to do a "stoic hero who has no time for romance" as their first playthrough?
What!!? Even the most stoic hero has a some time for romance! Or at least for sex...
When people are cruel it backfires on them. Now you will have to put up with daily emails asking when the expansion will be out
To ease the waiting I made a preview video today for some battle voices, including the supersexycharming Chambara:
[youtubewd]dV3VYRKv3io[/youtubewd]
X and YApr 13, 2012
I've been a lurker for some time in this forum, but I've decided to make an appearance in defence of the female cast (that is not to say that they have been underappreciated or such).
My top choice would have to be Loren and Elenor. I do find myself wishing that they have more (and more explicit at that) interactions with each other (might be rectified in the upcoming 0.93? hint, hint), but I simply adore the awkwardness that underlies their relationship. The love triangle scene at the end of Chapter 3 was particularly poignant: it gave us all a hint into how deep Loren must truly feel for Elenor despite it all.
For some of the above reasons, I would submit Karen and Elenor as my second choice. It is a bit dodgy to have her open to a new relationship immediately after losing her lover, but the appeal of a damaged, mature woman was just too much for me (and I'm sure, everyone else) to resist!
For a heterosexual pairing, I would have to pick Saren and Myrth. This came as a bit of a surprise to me. Being gay myself, I tend to choose exclusively gay storylines due to the dire scarcity of them in the first place. I tried out playing as Saren for kicks, blundered into romancing Myrth and was wonderfully surprised at the tastefulness with which their story has been handled. The romance was not at all in my face; it was as understated and evocative as Elenor's with Karen or Loren.
I similarly enjoyed Saren's romance plot with Draco, but I was especially irked by the storylines with Amukiki. I don't know why exactly, but my eyebrow twitched uncontrollably in vexation every single time a romance option with Amukiki popped up. I expected myself to dislike Rei, but the further I got in the game, the more he redeemed and endeared himself to me.
In conclusion, I adore all the characters (except for Amukiki, I'm truly sorry, but I just can't) to varying degrees, but if I have to choose my OTPs for this game, it'd have to be: ElenorxLoren and SarenxMyrth.
jack1974Apr 13, 2012
It's cool that the poll is so well balanced, it means that we did a good job (meaning that there's a romance almost for all tastes)
AleemaApr 13, 2012
I'm glad that I'm hearing conflicting feelings on certain characters. Also, I'm rather pleased that those who do not traditionally go BxG are liking Myrth's path. That was unexpected.
faeriroseApr 15, 2012
I just finished the game with Karen as my love interest. I have two words:
Hot.
The Karen/Elanor scene is super hot. Like wow :D
Damn.
The ending is a no-win situation if you court Karen. The logical "for the good of everyone" choice is to use either Elanor or Karen. That leaves Karen a sad mess from losing 2 loves or it leaves Elanor a sad mess. If you go with your love and sacrifice Loren, you're losing a great future ruler which isn't so logical; Karen's unlikely to have another child to take her place. Oh the agony...
pysaliApr 16, 2012
After having finished the entire game I changed my vote from Amukiki to Karen.
Thoughts on Romance Major
Karen is the path that really tugged at my heart and made me cry at the end. It also presented the toughest moral decisions for me. And oh my if Elenor is the sacrifice that just broke my heart into millions of tiny pieces. Brilliant.
I still love Amukiki and I have a definite love for his style of character, but Karen just really brought the game home for me. I also really loved Rei's storyline, though his romance CG didn't really do it for me (the expression on Elenor's face me me more and more uncomfortable as the text got hotter).
Draco's was sweet, as was Myrth's, but I'd have to put them solidly last in my list. Still really enjoyed them, but compared to the others, they weren't my personal romance preference. Loren was also pretty sweet, but I've always been neutral on her as a romance so while I liked her plot development, her scenes were middling for me.
AleemaApr 16, 2012
@faerirose:
Unfortunately, it feels like a no-win situation all around, especially if you romanced Loren or Karen.
@pysali: Yuckies. I see what you mean. I've modified it so that Rei's CG disappears eventually.
I'm really happy to see people playing all of the romances. I mean, I'm assuming most of you aren't playing them because you feel obligated to, even though this is beta-test mode. But I was expecting certain demographics to beat out other demographics, but so far I've been really amazed by the diversity of tastes you guys have.
jack1974Apr 16, 2012
I was wrong in my prediction though I told Aleema privately that after chapter4, some people would change to Draco as favorite romance but seems I was wrong. Maybe because of the fantasy/epic settings people want strong characters ? I mean, a personality like Draco is usually pretty popular in my others dating sims.
AleemaApr 16, 2012
I'm not so sure it has to do with the character type as it does my writing. I'm sure there's some premise that could be conceived that would make Draco a more appealing character. Right now, he basically loves you from the start, so that's not as thrilling as other paths. His sprite may also have something to do with it (if Rei didn't look so dashing, I would've dropped him so fast).
pysaliApr 16, 2012
Concerning Draco I think it's more a combination of archetype and his personal story arc.
Draco
Draco and Saren are both 'beta male' types so their romance is a bit more low key. Also sometimes it feels like Saren spends more time telling Draco he's cool and to feel good about himself then actually having romance. It's like I want Saren to give Draco a hug and be his friend more than be his romantic partner.
Draco really, really needs some friends and he's a bit of the whipping boy/butt of the group so it feels like early on they just tolerate him and even at the end a lot of his friendship overtures get rebuffed for the sake of comedy. Combine that with Saren's own background and the severe expectations and repercussions of being a slave for the amazons it makes him seem pretty meek as well. He had to be for so long to make sure he didn't get mutilated for talking back or killed or worse. Put two meek men together, one who was raised to be cautious and one who expects to be the butt of every joke and yeah, it makes the relationship awkward.
Maybe if Draco could actually make some friends in their group outside of Saren it would be better. He seeks approval and gets dropped a lot. I've always been curious to see what conversations between him and Rei would be like. Would Rei be hostile to him due to his heritage or just dismissive? Or Myrth especially since she's the nice, sensitive girl who would also be interested in his elf heritage. Or even Elenor in a non-romantic sense. Or even just teaming up with Dora for hijinks or watching Amukiki because he's hot as sin.
This is all probably in the realm of fanfic though.
AleemaApr 16, 2012
Thanks for the thoughtful analysis. I always considered Draco friends with Dora (and Elenor, for that matter). Welp, I guess that didn't come through. x_x
I'm having this gut reaction to "fix" Draco's path, but I'm starting to stress out, so ... I'll just tell myself, "you win some, you lose some," and move on. That expansion isn't going to write itself.
pysaliApr 16, 2012
There's not really anything to 'fix' for the main game. This is all my opinions and again, when it comes down to it, he's not my type for a guy on his own.
My thoughts on the other relationships in more depth:
Also I tend to like my male characters as more aggressive or stereotypically male. Thus Amukiki being so high on my list, he reminds me of old school barbarians, but I can see where he would be pretty low on other peoples.
Rei isn't usually my type as I'm not into the 'redeem the bad boy' type, but I thought his relationship was well written and he was a compelling character so that made me want to see their relationship. Also Elenor's growth was just as important as Rei's and it made their whole arc interesting. If Elenor was more passive or had been more passive or just making token protests about his behavior (like being a Mary Sue and defeating his personality with her amazing specialness) their arc would not have worked for me at all. Also his not using every elf lesson as an excuse to hit on her made it work.
Myrth is pretty typical of the meek, yet sweet and sensitive virgin. Her arc was sweet, but that's not my type. I still enjoyed it because it painted the 'mutual virgins finding first love' picture and then I remember that Saren is part of the harem and should have at least some practical training when it comes to giving a woman pleasure even if he's technically a virgin and that diminishes it for me.
Karen would ordinarily not have worked for me due to her recently losing Ryzom and not really having time to grieve his death. It should feel very rebound, but it works because her bond with Elenor is gradual, but important and she's more than old enough to know what she likes. If this arc had been Myrth's it would have felt icky because even though they're both young it would have felt like Elenor was taking advantage of Myrth's inexperience and grief, but Karen's age and experience is part of why it works. Also she's the initiator of taking their relationship to the next level. Karen's in control of their relationship, but also tender and aware of Elenor's needs, that makes them work for me.
Finally I get the impression that Loren is supposed to be 'melting the ice queen' but she comes off as a lot more as just the emotionally cool bad ass who is no nonsense. My interest in her is watching her grow and change as a person and rebel against the prejudices of her society while also learning to be more open minded about the outside world. Loren's growth in the game is really good, but again for me, not really my type (either ice queen or the one expression bad ass).
anitaApr 16, 2012
I think too there's nothing to fix, surely. I liked Draco romance, even if I'm not normally into BxB. I am so eagerly waiting for the expansion, and for probably a character nobody else is looking forward to (Mesphit!!) so I'd say save your energies for the expansion! yes
AleemaApr 16, 2012
Thanks for the reassurance, pysali and anita. And for more analyses. They're fun to read for some reason. I think it's just seeing things from a new perspective that's really refreshing.
I totally want to incorporate more job acknowledgements, even if they're small one-sentence branches. That's a good idea you have about the harem spy being more smooth with Myrth. If you guys have any more job-related stuff you'd like me to consider, I'm all ears.
@anita: You're looking forward to Mesphit? I'm looking forward to Mesphit! I wrote his recruitment scene and was like,"yesss ..."