Loren version 1.3.0

[Anima_]

The text reads that you can use Lorens Guard skill to protect Saren, that has nothing to do with the fact that a thief has no Guard skill.
Guard is part of the Warrior class, so it is available to the player if she so chooses.

[renke_]

Guard is part of the Warrior class, so it is available to the player if she so chooses.

you have access to a different Loren than I ;)

Warrior skill tree here(tm) consists of:
- Toughness
- Taunt
- Power Attack
- Stun
- Push

[Anima_]

It's not in the tree, it's part of the class. Believe me, I sneaked that action in.
Actually don't believe me. Start the game, choose Saren as Thief and put him in the backrow. On Lorens turn click on Saren and you get the Guard action as an option.

[renke_]

yapp, I was wrong [I will wear sackcloth and ashes until you forgive me :P]

Though it took your vehement contra until I got it - skills not found in the skill GUI are irritating...

[Anima_]

Nothing to forgive there.
The feature is unfortunately a bit poorly communicated. The skilltree is a bit inflexible, so there was no place to put the Guard action.
It's unfortunately missing from the class description as well. Though we've already established that no one reads those anyway.

[jack1974]

Yes is a bit confusing is a bit like the Normal shot and Aimed Shot, or Use Item or Defend. Are default actions, but that one is more complex so you could easily misunderstand it as a real skill.
Indeed for SOTW I removed it from being available to everyone, and only some specific character can use it (PC Ranger and Krimm). Will be interesting from gameplay point of view I think...

[Anima_]

I'm toying with making it a regular skill for Warriors and Healers in ToA:RoW. With the ability to upgrade it and take less damage from guarding.
That should also prevent this confusion.

[renke_]

I would appreciate it - the "workflow" for every skill should be identical, different approaches for similar actions are confusing.

PS New bug :) Sometimes the party drag&drop doesn't work, the character icon is stuck between the slots (I cannot describe it better). Don't ask me how to reproduce it but this happened never in 1.2.9

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A few minutes later...
The "cutscene" at the beginning of chapter 3 has also the "Image 'bg' can't take parameters 'castle int'." Though this is most likely fixed in your development version?

[jack1974]

Yes the castle int was a new bug of latest renpy, when you used a keyword command it would wrongly interpret it (int stands for integer in coding). I had fixed it myself renaming the image but has been fixed also in Ren'Py itself.
About the drag&drop bug I have no clue, here seems to work fine, but since I'm using the new version for SOTW too, when I begin that demo if is a frequent bug for sure will get more reports. I might also remove the drag&drop completely and just use two clicks to make your formation since probably is faster

[renke_]

You need a ticketing system - Bugzilla* is so much better for filing and tracking issues

It seems that 1.3.0 doesn't use the platform specific folder for save files (on Linux: <userhome>/.renpy/Loren_Amazon_Princess) but creates a directory below the installation folder (<instdir>/game/saves).

I very much prefer the first way as user-specific files must not placed in a common folder and normally system folders are not user-writable.

*) I would even prefer Trac (*bargs*) over a forum :)